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 7.62x39: 1000 rounds for $100
skypirate7  [Member]
12/2/2009 11:30:12 AM


Will it ever come back? We're seeing prices on guns drop across the board (ex: K-Var sale) but I haven't yet seen the same drop in ammo prices.

Due to the economy and weak post-Obama-scare demand I think this is a possibility... but I'm still seeing 100 rounds of 9mm Winchester White Box going for $20+ when it was going for $10 back in 2006.

10 cents per round was the competitive price point 5 years ago. Today it's 20 cents per round. What happened? And why haven't ammo prices come down like gun prices?
trip210  [Team Member]
12/1/2009 3:15:20 PM
You're a tease.
philspel  [Team Member]
12/1/2009 3:20:57 PM
You suck!!! I almost broke my arm trying to get to my wallet...
deanald2pt0  [Team Member]
12/1/2009 3:22:10 PM
ban him...
The_Beer_Slayer  [Site Staff]
12/1/2009 3:31:12 PM
Originally Posted By deanald2pt0:
ban him...


i concur
louisianarebel  [Member]
12/1/2009 3:44:33 PM
Originally Posted By philspel:
You suck!!! I almost broke my arm trying to get to my wallet...


Me too
wildearp  [Team Member]
12/1/2009 4:26:21 PM
I figured it was gonna be a reloader making his own gunpowder and casting bullets in the basement...............................
osprey21  [Team Member]
12/1/2009 4:30:24 PM

Originally Posted By skypirate7:


Will it ever come back?

Nope. Next question.



GeorgiaBII  [Member]
12/1/2009 4:33:31 PM
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Originally Posted By deanald2pt0:
ban him...


i concur


Well don't just say it do it!!!!!!



FUCK I almost jizzed my pants thinking there was a deal to be had!
BillofRights  [Team Member]
12/1/2009 4:56:08 PM
The prices have already come down to pretty close to 10 cents per round. (in 2006 dollars)

Convert the relative prices into silver or gold and see what you come up with.

I believe we will see $160/1000 in 2010 USD, however, that's just a hunch.

GTwannabe  [Member]
12/1/2009 8:51:38 PM
1. Major Iraq/Afghanistan contracts for 7.62x39 limiting supply
2. Chinese economy driving up scrap metal prices
3. Strong Russian Ruble due to oil/gas revenue
4. Weak US dollar due to mult-trillion bailouts/stimulus
StephenNW  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 12:38:00 AM
Today's price for 7.62x39 is not expensive. When you factor in the costs of casings, primers, bullets and powder, you'd be hard-pressed to even make your own for .20 round. It would be very close, anyway.

People need to grasp the concept of "inflation", and really need to get over this idea of, "I used to pay $99 for 1,000/rds of ammo, so now that it's $200, it's twice as expensive!"

You will never again see $99 cases of 7.62x39 ammo. Guaranteed.
BillofRights  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 11:19:45 AM
Originally Posted By StephenNW:
Today's price for 7.62x39 is not expensive. When you factor in the costs of casings, primers, bullets and powder, you'd be hard-pressed to even make your own for .20 round. It would be very close, anyway.

People need to grasp the concept of "inflation", and really need to get over this idea of, "I used to pay $99 for 1,000/rds of ammo, so now that it's $200, it's twice as expensive!"

You will never again see $99 cases of 7.62x39 ammo. Guaranteed.


Maybe, but that really gives you an idea of how cheap AKs and ARs have gotten.

I remember buying a Bushmaster AR in '99 I think it was around $650, which was a pretty good price. Let's say it cost two $20 gold coins.

Today, the same gun would cost you half a gold coin.

Right now are the "good old days" for EBR collecting. Buy 'em cheap, Stack 'em Deep.
N1Rampage  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 11:58:01 AM
I got into shooting when it was $75 shipped for a 1000 Barnaul.

delacrue  [Member]
12/2/2009 11:59:13 AM
No, prices were cheap back then because of all the surplus ammo from the commie states. Now most of that is gone now, so you'll never see it again.
smokiexd45  [Life Member]
12/2/2009 12:02:26 PM
Damn shame, I got a little dizzy after I read the thread title.
Airwolf  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 12:05:30 PM
Goddamnit! Talk about a bogus thread title.

Nearly cut myself on the credit card getting it out of the wallet.

GonzoAR15-1  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 12:07:51 PM
Damn, I actually popped chub for a sec there.

N1Rampage  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 12:09:46 PM
Originally Posted By delacrue:
No, prices were cheap back then because of all the surplus ammo from the commie states. Now most of that is gone now, so you'll never see it again.


Some sources say we've just scratched the surface and others say a few years are left.

Considering how communist economies used to work, I'll say ammo is no where near gone.
Rudison  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 12:10:35 PM
Originally Posted By StephenNW:
Today's price for 7.62x39 is not expensive. When you factor in the costs of casings, primers, bullets and powder, you'd be hard-pressed to even make your own for .20 round. It would be very close, anyway.

People need to grasp the concept of "inflation", and really need to get over this idea of, "I used to pay $99 for 1,000/rds of ammo, so now that it's $200, it's twice as expensive!"

You will never again see $99 cases of 7.62x39 ammo. Guaranteed.


If Ob*ma continues to mis-lead in his present fashion, $99 7.62x39 will be a reality along with skilled labor making $150 - 200 a week.

wtr100  [Member]
12/2/2009 12:11:51 PM
doubt it

market has shown it will bear a much higher price
GlutealCleft  [Member]
12/2/2009 12:13:44 PM
Ammo prices have come down, but not as much. They're still dropping, though.

But will they ever hit prices of 5 years ago? Dream on. Even if nothing else, inflation would keep that from happening.
mattellis2  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 12:15:06 PM
Originally Posted By StephenNW:
Today's price for 7.62x39 is not expensive. When you factor in the costs of casings, primers, bullets and powder, you'd be hard-pressed to even make your own for .20 round. It would be very close, anyway.

People need to grasp the concept of "inflation", and really need to get over this idea of, "I used to pay $99 for 1,000/rds of ammo, so now that it's $200, it's twice as expensive!"

You will never again see $99 cases of 7.62x39 ammo. Guaranteed.


while i agree with you somewhat, are you currently making twice what you were in 2006?

GonzoAR15-1  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 12:16:48 PM
Originally Posted By mattellis2:
Originally Posted By StephenNW:
Today's price for 7.62x39 is not expensive. When you factor in the costs of casings, primers, bullets and powder, you'd be hard-pressed to even make your own for .20 round. It would be very close, anyway.

People need to grasp the concept of "inflation", and really need to get over this idea of, "I used to pay $99 for 1,000/rds of ammo, so now that it's $200, it's twice as expensive!"

You will never again see $99 cases of 7.62x39 ammo. Guaranteed.


while i agree with you somewhat, are you currently making twice what you were in 2006?



WELCOME WELCOME WELCOME, to the world of stagflation. Price inflation on goods = fast; wage growth (price inflation on wages) = slow.

Feel the pinch and then punch the nearest Democrat right in the fucking gut as thanks.
beernut  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 12:16:58 PM
bastard!

I was ready to order some!
Fender57  [Member]
12/2/2009 12:24:01 PM
It was cheap back in 1999-2006 because Wolf and Barnaul were still trying to break into the market. People were still thinking it was crap russian.
Also, the AWB had not yet expired and AK's were not as numerous as they are today, and 5.45mm was virtually unheard of. I remember a guy who was selling 5.45mm bakelite mags for $4 because he couldn't get rid of them.
GC456  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 12:24:38 PM
Originally Posted By deanald2pt0:
ban him...


THIS!
Shooter42  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 12:39:57 PM
damn you...
TheRocketmac  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 12:41:19 PM

Originally Posted By philspel:
You suck!!! I almost broke my arm trying to get to my wallet...

yep, I'm not as proficient navigating the mouse with my weak-side.
hushpuppy  [Member]
12/2/2009 12:43:40 PM
MUTHAFU ....

misleading dang title there ...
JAD  [Member]
12/2/2009 12:53:32 PM
Originally Posted By skypirate7:


Will it ever come back? We're seeing prices on guns drop across the board (ex: K-Var sale) but I haven't yet seen the same drop in ammo prices.

Due to the economy and weak post-Obama-scare demand I think this is a possibility... but I'm still seeing 100 rounds of 9mm Winchester White Box going for $20+ when it was going for $10 back in 2006.

10 cents per round was the competitive price point 5 years ago. Today it's 20 cents per round. What happened? And why haven't ammo prices come down like gun prices?


During bad economic times it is a lot more difficult to sell expensive durable goods than it is to sell goods that complement people's existing goods (ie. you may not be selling cars, but you will still be selling gasoline and parts [actually auto parts retailers have been faring espeiclaly well because of the recession]).
JCKnife  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 12:54:30 PM
LET FALL THE BAN HAMMER!!!
BigBang  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 1:02:04 PM
dick
TheJammer  [Member]
12/2/2009 1:02:53 PM
Zaphod  [Life Member]
12/2/2009 1:03:34 PM
I was expecting a pic of an old Shotgun News or something.
Black-Tiger  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 1:05:37 PM
Originally Posted By philspel:
You suck!!! I almost broke my arm trying to get to my wallet...


No kidding; my shoulder popped out of its socket while struggling to pull my T.H.E. Wallet out of my back pocket. Damn LE dress pants.
stormwalker  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 1:06:50 PM
Originally Posted By BillofRights:
The prices have already come down to pretty close to 10 cents per round. (in 2006 dollars)

Convert the relative prices into silver or gold and see what you come up with.

I believe we will see $160/1000 in 2010 USD, however, that's just a hunch.



yaeh, well all that's academic because nobody's wages are going to keep pace with inflation and many are out of work.

and it's only a matter of time the brady bunch figures out that ammo, not guns, are the way to control the populace
dhmjr40  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 1:08:44 PM
Originally Posted By Black-Tiger:
Originally Posted By philspel:
You suck!!! I almost broke my arm trying to get to my wallet...


No kidding; my shoulder popped out of its socket while struggling to pull my T.H.E. Wallet out of my back pocket. Damn LE dress pants.


Me too.
BushBoar  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 1:08:51 PM
Fuck I was about to order a few k and I don't even own a 7.62x39 yet.
Subconscious  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 1:09:56 PM
Fuck that $100 noise, I remember $70 per case!

Mattl  [Member]
12/2/2009 1:09:58 PM
There are a lot more 7.62X39 guns in the publics hand's now than there were 2 years ago.
Brass and copper prices are still high IIRC.
Afghanistan/Iraq
Certain calibres are still in high demand due to hoarders.
The falliung value of the dollar which will soon get worse.
etc.



In other words no.
masfonos  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 1:14:12 PM
Dick!
ragedracer1977  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 1:15:41 PM
Originally Posted By philspel:
You suck!!! I almost broke my arm trying to get to my wallet...


Me too!
The_Mocker  [Member]
12/2/2009 1:25:47 PM
the overall gullibility is amazing
sbenedini  [Member]
12/2/2009 1:27:32 PM
as long as it is close to or more than .223 it can sit on gd shelves. Ak's are getting cheaper because of it. The economy will take its toll and is already showing signs.
LuvBUSHmaster  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 1:27:57 PM
Let loose the dogs of bannation...
JoePatriot  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 1:28:18 PM
Originally Posted By trip210:
You're a tease.


toddlerp  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 1:29:05 PM


Originally Posted By trip210:
You're a tease.


Justa_TXguy  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 1:30:34 PM
npd233  [Life Member]
12/2/2009 1:30:42 PM
MACD  [Team Member]
12/2/2009 1:33:01 PM
I just tore a button off my XXXXL 5.11s trying to get to my wallet